October 4, 2017 – St. Francis of Assisi

St. Francis of Assisi and His Theology

Brian Durocher led the discussion on this feast day of St. Francis of Assisi (1182 – 1226) who, while stripping himself naked in front of the local bishop, took vows of extreme poverty and dedicated himself to living and spreading the Gospel. You can read a short biographical sketch here.

St. Francis is associated with cataphatic theology, a belief in the presence or immanence of God and ability of humans to experience and love and make positive statements about God. Apophatic theology, on the other hand, emphasizes the transcendence of God and our inability to describe or explain Him. Describing God as “the man upstairs” perhaps goes too far in the former direction and as a distant and mysterious clock maker who just set things in motion too far in the latter direction.

Here is an interesting discussion of apophatic or negative theology.

Brian mentioned St. John of the Cross as a mystic who expressed apophatic theology, and this post mentions him and others.

And here is a simple explanation of the differences between the two types of theology.

A good example from Sacred Scripture of cataphatic theology is the phrase encountered several times in the Psalms: “God is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love.”  And perhaps John 4:24 – “God is Spirit, and those who worship him must worship in Spirit and truth.” would fall in the apophatic category.

Because of the Incarnation, Immanuel, God with us, God in flesh, Catholicism seems to lean more in the direction of cataphatic theology. We can certainly say that Jesus teaches us all we need to know, if not all we might want to know, about The Triune God and that we experience His presence, and that what we learn is consistent with that Old Testament description: “Gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love.” Still, there is that Divine Mystery.

My apologies for that wandering, but I did it for self edification and figured I might as well share it.

Today’s Gospel – Luke 9:57-62 – About those Jesus Seemed to Reject

Without getting too hung up on the specifics of Jesus’s dismissive comments, we can perhaps generalize that being too hung up on material things (a place to rest our heads), the past (burying the dead), or bonds we have (family at home), can hamper our progress toward true discipleship.

Stephen Ministry

Fred Belinga, a member of the Men’s Prayer Group and a Stephen Minister at St. Peters, explained the Stephen Ministry and invited us to join the upcoming training and perhaps become Stephen Ministers. Here is a link to the Stephen Ministry Website.

For more information or to join the class you can email Fred: fredbelinga@gmail.com



4 thoughts on “October 4, 2017 – St. Francis of Assisi

  1. Paul Bartow (@Paul_Bartow)

    Thanks for posting, Darryl. I enjoyed the discussion of cataphatic and apophatic theology. These terms are new to me, and it’s great to connect them to two Catholic thinkers. I personally tend towards apophatic theology. Though God cannot be comprehended, The judgments of the LORD are true; they are righteous altogether (Psalm 19:9).


  2. Michael R Ugino, M.D.

    Darryl what was the name of that book that Brian mentioned that describes St. John of the cross? I believe it was “the soul at night? “Mike

    Sent from my iPad




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